Ah TSN weighs in with their cutting edge commentary on the beautiful game.Originally Posted by Parkdale
All they did was "rip and repost" the story from the CP. All their "journalists" must be in Buffalo trying to whip up interest in the most over-hyped sporting event on Earth, the World Junior Hockey championships.... the only "World" championship that is cared about by only one country.
^ if permission was given... having it in writing would be key.
Wouldn't there need to be some form of paperwork filed, either with the league or with Celtic to cover things like injuries, insurance, terms of the trial, costs related (travel, per diem, etc)?
If DeRo can produce that... he wins.
And that, would be enough for me.
IF he got permission, he did nothing wrong and I for one will welcome him back if he returns.
As for the one who gave him permission, he/she/them better step up.
Yeah, did you see the ticket scheme they have going?
This one was a particularly tough situation, though. TFC announced the trade and then offered to renegotiate the contract. Probably there was a lot of, "Just sign now, we'll fix it later," pressure from the league, the team and who knows, maybe the agent. But when "later" came it wasn't what anyone expected and it's been a bad relationship since. It also sounds like there were lots of times since then that more promises to "fix" it were made, including Anselmi himself saying that their "door is open." But was it really?
If that's the case then there are way bigger issues than what is going on at TFC. How could any organization operate when they could be over-stepped in that fashion by the league???
Apparently you missed MLS releasing a statement saying they were completely unaware that DeRo was trialing at Celtic.
Absolutely no reason to assume DeRo received permission, let alone permission from the correct figures.
If DeRo gets permission from the BMO hot dog vendor, that doesn't make it okay.
I am having a hard time keeping track of all the releases. I know TFC has released a statement but did MLS?
It happens. Believe me.
i wonder how he feels about playing in front of a MLS sized crowds and smaller when he isn't playing at home or at Rangers?
DeRo is under contract with Toronto FC...meaning they own his rights...meaning they get to control whatever they want...what would happen if Stokes or Hooper went on trial to Manchester United without permission and tore his acl on the training pitch? Well United would no longer want him and Celtic would be returned with damaged goods and their salaries to pay for.
Finally, why at age 32 is he now deciding to play in Europe; he has or is currently peaking and it will be all downhill from her
I have the same questions. One would assume some kind of document would exist to address stuff like this.
Hypothetically - If De-Ro does get injured during training. Who's on the hook for his salary? Anyone? Is he SOL?
not that I am aware of ... I checked the MLS site, the news on there is about TFC's statement; not a statement form MLS
Last edited by Suds; 12-28-2010 at 02:53 PM.
Is this on the MLS site?
I'm not trying to start a rumour - but if TFC didn't give him permission, the only other logical group would be MLS - who technically own his contract.
Last edited by jabbronies; 12-28-2010 at 02:53 PM.
yep, just posted it to show that the story is breaking, even in non-soccer places.
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No I was referring to the Ben Rycroft release.
Or, crazy thought, he didn't get permission.
You said there was a release by the MLS that I had missed - I'd love to read it - I can't find it on CDN Soccer blog, Ben's twitter or the MLS site.
Can you post a link
After reading every story that i could from as many sources as possible the one common thread to every blog,report,story is;TFC is a mess,no real G>M> no real COACH,Klinsman on the beach taking our money,Anselmi on permanent hiatus,and the inmates running the asylum.When o when will somebody make a f------ decision!!!!!
Rycroft's tweet:
CSN has comment from MLS on DeRo/Celtic scenario. Gist: Celtic was unaware things weren't cleared with MLS. Post will be up within the hour.
Stepped out for a few hours and this thread more than doubled- can anyone fill me in? What'd I miss? Who are we lynching this aft?
Good luck De Ro. I hope you make the team and hopefully get to play some champions league football.
When i watched the titanic, i was hoping leo would come to his senses and hop up onto the raft and push kate winslet into the cold water. Professionals shouldn't go down with sinking ships. Take care of you and your family, and get as far away as you can from this pooh storm of a front office. As a fan, i'll miss you, but will completely understand your decision.
If you believe the FO knew nothing about this, you're kidding yourself. Another attempt at saving face for an incompetent organization.
I wonder if Klinsmann's group is watching this mess and wondering what they have gotten themselves into?
how was he throwing dero under a bus...last time i checked, dero was still receiving his contractual agreeded paycheck ontime
sources is like saying some people say
do you work for fox Roogsy?
So if my sources (who are more often right than wrong) are saying something different, what does that mean?
Thanks. It'll be interesting to see what MLS has to say.
It means you have different information than I do and one of us is wrong. I have no problems admitting the reality of the situation. However, I had information that rebutted what the information at the time and so far it has proven to be accurate. DeRo DID submit a trial request. That was not known at the time. TFC DID know of a trial request for Celtic. The exact opposite was being argued at the time. And DeRo left for Scotland with what he claims was permission. All new news.
Does this mean more news can't come out? No. But certainly there is more information being discussed than there was before when people were freaking out because DeRo left without asking for permission or telling his club. Is that still Fox news? The frustrating part about this board is that no matter how much info you have, it's never enough. You need the smoking gun or the info is worthless. What info do you have for us Priz?
Last edited by Roogsy; 12-28-2010 at 03:09 PM.
I've been saying for the last year and a half that this team was fucked from top to bottom. The front office, the GM, the coach, some of the players.
Vast majority thought I was being overly critical.
If and when DeRo leaves, where does this leave out bet Stryker?
So Dero submitted a request but TFC never approved it? Isn't that really the same difference? Either way TFC didn't approve of, or know he was going
No way.I wonder if Klinsmann's group is watching this mess and wondering what they have gotten themselves into?
As consultants, they are thinking "our billable hours for January are gonna go through the freakin' roof!"
Happy times!!
Much like our team, up shit creek without a paddle.If and when DeRo leaves, where does this leave out bet Stryker?
I think you missed my post about the organization.
It is feasable (although I am not claiming that this is what happened) that someone other than Earl gave DeRo the permission. Either at TFC or at MLS. I simply don't know. The problem is that in the dysfunction that is TFC as well as the distant communication between the team and MLS, somebody somewhere could have given DeRo permission. That is just a hypothetical situation, by no means do I think or know that this is what happened. Like all of you I am waiting to hear directly from the team on this, starting with their confirmation as to whether DeRo ever submitted a trial request.
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