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    Quote Originally Posted by Roogsy View Post
    Sulking behind the play? Really? The man has been unhappy with his contract for 2 years and played like his hair is on fire putting up 2 career seasons and you call that sulking behind the play? It really is becoming clear that you guys really don't want to give him a chance.



    It's the team that needs to get on with it. DeRo has been waiting for them not the other way around. Perhaps you should be sending this message to them.
    I already did send an e-mail stating I thought DeRo deserves more to MLSE, Have You?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derko View Post
    I already did send an e-mail stating I thought DeRo deserves more to MLSE, Have You?
    I am all for giving the man a chance, always have been, perhaps his agent should be working harder on a negotiation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derko View Post
    I already did send an e-mail stating I thought DeRo deserves more to MLSE, Have You?
    I did one better, I've told them in person.

    Quote Originally Posted by Derko View Post
    I am all for giving the man a chance, always have been, perhaps his agent should be working harder on a negotiation
    That's what this whole Celtic thing was about. I have more confidence in the ruthlessness of this agent than I do in the competency of his last. Like I said, it's now in TFC's court. Let's see what they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roogsy View Post
    That's what this whole Celtic thing was about. I have more confidence in the ruthlessness of this agent than I do in the competency of his last. Like I said, it's now in TFC's court. Let's see what they do.
    hmmmm and here I thought this was all about having a chance to see how a "big outfit" trains. A chance to get a little stretching in, run a couple of laps, tour the stadium and visit the Celtic gift shop before going to Turkey.

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    Let's not go over this again. If anyone here thinks players train with big clubs only to stretch their legs, they're naive, plain and simple. Fans should not care about intent, as long as things are done properly, it's a part of the business and we should accept it.

    Geez...talk about rehashing things that are irrelevant.

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    You've come a long way baby


    Originally Posted by Roogsy (page 29)
    ^ I think the point many of us are missing is that there appears to be different requirements for "training" as opposed to "trialing". Did DeRo meet the requirements for "trialing". Even I have to admit no. Did he meet the requirements for "training"? Even I am not sure how they differ from trial approvals, but apparently they do. Unfortunately in our rush to lynch DeRo have any of us considered whether he met the burden for a training session?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pookie View Post
    You've come a long way baby


    Originally Posted by Roogsy (page 29)
    ^ I think the point many of us are missing is that there appears to be different requirements for "training" as opposed to "trialing". Did DeRo meet the requirements for "trialing". Even I have to admit no. Did he meet the requirements for "training"? Even I am not sure how they differ from trial approvals, but apparently they do. Unfortunately in our rush to lynch DeRo have any of us considered whether he met the burden for a training session?

    Not at all. Unless of course we are all burying our heads in the sand. There is no need for any player in North America to "train" in Scotland, England or anywhere else further away than their own league or continent. The point of training stints at another club is something of a preliminary "dance" with a club for a quick look that may or may not lead to a longer commitment. Do you agree or disagree? Or do you honestly think that players go to other clubs halfway around the world to get in shape?

    The point of the post you just quoted from me was simply a matter of paperwork. If DeRo's camp submitted the correct paperwork for a training stint at club and it got approved, then what exactly is the problem here? So the real question is, did that happen and between who?

    Everything else is irrelevant. You guys are looking for ghosts where there is nothing but wind blowing through trees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roogsy View Post
    Not at all. Unless of course we are all burying our heads in the sand. There is no need for any player in North America to "train" in Scotland, England or anywhere else further away than their own league or continent. The point of training stints at another club is something of a preliminary "dance" with a club for a quick look that may or may not lead to a longer commitment. Do you agree or disagree? Or do you honestly think that players go to other clubs halfway around the world to get in shape?
    Exactly, that's not "training", that's trialing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roogsy View Post
    Not at all. Unless of course we are all burying our heads in the sand. There is no need for any player in North America to "train" in Scotland, England or anywhere else further away than their own league or continent. The point of training stints at another club is something of a preliminary "dance" with a club for a quick look that may or may not lead to a longer commitment. Do you agree or disagree? Or do you honestly think that players go to other clubs halfway around the world to get in shape?.
    Oh, I never thought he was going there to train. That would be silly. I'm just taking a little shot at one of the defenses used in this whole debate.

    I honestly think that TFC wanted him there in order that he could earn a longer term contract.

    They clearly didn't want him going for a short term loan, saying no to the same, so giving "permission" (eventually) had to be done with the idea that if they could rid themselves of the contract on a longer term, they'd do it.

    The only other plausible reason for TFC to allow him to stay there was to save face after having their hand forced.

    Either way, I'm not sure how that parlays into him staying with the Reds in 2011.

 

 

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