Supporters Shield Race
TFC is expected to be in the mix, so I will update periodically through season.
Final Standings
Overall Points:
1. Toronto: 69 points
2. New York City: 57 points
3. Chicago: 55 points
4. Atlanta: 55 points
5. Columbus: 54 points
Points Per Game:
1. Toronto: 2.03
2. New York City 1.68
3. Chicago: 1.62
4. Atlanta: 1.62
5. Columbus: 1.59
TFC Magic Number to Clinch Supporters Shield: CLINCHED
Points Needed to Pass MLS regular season record: CLINCHED
Last edited by 105; 10-23-2017 at 09:08 AM.
No superstitious posts yet?
Guess its no pussplops to people.
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Am I the only one who doesn't really care about "winning" the regular season?
Ask the Washington Capitals how that's working out for them
Which sucks because imo the season should mean more than "playoffs".
But yes staying off this cause of Toronto reasoning. We stay off things like this
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Am I the only one who doesn't really care about "winning" the regular season?
Ask the Washington Capitals how that's working out for them
Either it's the Presidents trophy to you or it's the toughest trophy to win and you appreciate it. I'd prefer it to pussplops.
But no
you are not alone.
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I think the Supporters Shield is a trophy and accomplishment that should be celebrated. I want TFC to try and win it.
It's not a choice of one trophy over another. Both have meaning and are important. Clearly the "Champion" of MLS still refers to the playoffs.
By winning the shield you have the best position from which to win the cup. That said it's that fine line between being ready for the playoffs and killing yourselves to get the top spot and crashing out.
Hopefully we are deep enough to do both.
A Suppository Sled title would be nice, but I'd rather have a pussplops Cup.
Why not both?
(but also season > playoffs)
Toronto 'til I die - but I think they're trying to kill me.
In any sport to me if you win the league you're the true champion. Particularly in football. I think playoffs are useless but I get it, it keeps the interests of more fans for a longer period. I really prefer the promotion relegation system over any playoffs system but I understand the challenges that possesses in North America.
Well if you ask the question who was the best team in MLS in 2016 the honest answer would be......Dallas. So for me winning the league is the biggest achievement & winning the cup is a lot of fun,Am I the only one who doesn't really care about "winning" the regular season?
Ask the Washington Capitals how that's working out for them
Yikes.
I'd rather the Supper Dish. We'll work on it.
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This is North America and unfortunately things are done differently here, you play a regular season and you play for making the playoffs and trying to get the best positions that hopefully will give you advantages in the playoffs. Here you win the playoffs and you are considered the best and the champion. Winning the regular season is not going to get the whole city behind you in celebration, win the playoffs and MLS Cup and you get the mainstream media and all sports fans behind you in celebration, that's what it's all about for me winning something that even the non soccer fan will get behind, see tv ratings for last years playoff run. Winning the regular season is nice for us few diehards that come on these boards but it does not engage the whole city does not get the team as much attention not even close as winning the playoffs and MLS Cup.
Winning the double would be very nice.
Winning the Presidents Cup in the NHL nets you the toughest second round match up in all of sports.
That said, I'm all for the Supporters Shield for banter chants.
I'd love a supporters shield. Definitely has value to me as regardless of who wins the tournament, the league champ is truly the best team. Ie Dallas from last year.
First place now! Hope that they can keep it up.
Ya it's nice to be top of the league so early in the season. There's certainly going to be lots of ups and downs this season but it's important to lay down the marker early.
updated!
It's a race!! I hope I win. - Enrico Pollini
As a Brit I will never understand the concept of the best team in the whole wide league winning a shield after a years hard work and commitment and the best one in a mini end o season league (playoff) winning the MLS cup, bit arse about face for me, but hey that's the way here so I suck it n see. !!
Don't even get me started on relegation and promotion :@)
Different implementation - but think of FA Cup or League Cup. Different timing and they don't allow lower leagues to enter. US Open replaces one of those, the MLS Cup replaces the other.
One reason you can't take the season winners as a true winner in MLS is because the schedules are unbalanced. Teams do not play the same number of opponents equally. For example. TFC usually plays easter conference opponents 2-3x vs western conference opponents 1x. So if east is hypothetically stronger than west, then a western conference team has better odds of winning season.
This also doesn't include same conference opponents are usually played 2x at home and 1 x away (or vice versa)and varies for each team so not an equal home and away series.
Last edited by DinamoTFC; 05-08-2017 at 10:24 AM.
I want the Reds to win this big time, giving them home field throughout the post-season and a first round bye.
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if anyone reads the soccer magazine "HOWLER" (I've only ever seen it for sale at Chapters), there's a really great article about pro/rel in this issue (Roy Keane illustration on the cover).
the writer goes into great depth to discuss the pros/cons of it, and how to make it work in NA.....good read....
The Peter Wilt one? Think it's up on Howlers website.
right here: https://whatahowler.com/the-pro-rel-...o-245d5597f2f8
Oh, Peter Wilt. One of the true characters of American soccer. I remember advocating for him being our GM before ownership went and hired Payne. Guy has had quite a career.
Wasn't he en route to Toronto for an interview with TFC then when he landed Payne was announced as GM?
Depends who you ask. I used to know a guy who used to be one of the leaders of Section 8 during the mid to late 2000's, and then had a working relationship with Wilt on his last few teams/projects. IIRC I remember asking him around the time what happened with that Wilt rumor and he basically said he hadn't talked to Wilt but he'd heard a couple competing stories from different places so it was anybody's guess.
If you've heard the stories about how he his personally, though, you can imagine the culture clash he'd have had with top brass at MLSE. I'm inclined to believe we were strongly considering him but MLSE wasn't totally sold, and then Payne came along and was a much less offensive choice so they got him instead. Whether or not he was literally on a plane on the way here is neither here nor there. we'll never know that bit.
Last edited by molenshtain; 05-08-2017 at 11:28 AM.
yup that's the one guys......good read to go through....
Peter Wilt selling the same consoltation piece he wrote up a year ago for USSF and calling it an article? I remember reading that and wondering what economic world he was living in.
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