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    Koevermans plays one half and scores one goal early in it. He has one other attempt at goal in the game, not on target. Frings plays a steady but not spectacular game, taking one shot that is stopped by the keeper. TFC backline with no Eckersley, gets shredded once again and we lose by 3.

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    Can JDG play as a CB? Serious question. We need experience at the back. We all know he is better defensively so why not try him out there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David_Oliveira View Post
    Can JDG play as a CB? Serious question. We need experience at the back. We all know he is better defensively so why not try him out there?
    With no size, no physical presence at all, and no toughness whatsoever - I wouldn't want him in the middle back there...
    "...Money wasn't tight, but it like, it wasn't right..."


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    Quote Originally Posted by McCartney View Post
    With no size, no physical presence at all, and no toughness whatsoever - I wouldn't want him in the middle back there...
    Ahh good point. I'm just not sure I would want Henry in there. Too many bad performances can hinder his growth

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    JDG scores his first goal as a red. It will be an own goal.
    Kovermans is good for 70 minutes and a goal, Alan Gordon comes off the bench to finish the job.

    2-1.

    Frings gets a yellow for arguing with the ref.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    After reading this board, I start to fear we will lose 6-0 and both DPs will be Mista version 2.0 coached by a chimpanzee with no football brain.

    However ManUtd4Ever's picture is like a bright sunny summer breeze after a storm. Yes, it can happen!
    No need for the initial negativity is there? whats that about?

    It can happen if we utilise these DP's effectively and Winter heavily studies recent Dallas games to get an understanding of what he might be up against. Im confident that these DP's can make an immediate impact especially if theyre capable of humbling themselves and respect the much less gifted players around them. Much depends on the charisma of these two guys, Im looking forward to see how they turn out and especially looking forward to seeing how they perform in CONCACAF

    Im sure the wednesday nighters will be in full voice and exuberant as ever too. The atmosphere for late midweek games in good weather is usually superb, whatever the team's performance is like.

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    Frings:
    - hit the crossbar, get booked, complete 79% of passes, 1 assist, sport a thin black headband, will injure brek shea
    DK:
    - score (left corner along the deck), be subbed at the 74th minute for Gordon, will suffer 4 fouls against, be offside twice, wear red

    go big or go home.

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    - Frings and Koverman bring back to BMO a "classic" Toronto Fc game!
    - Dallas scores at the 12 minute mark to open the game
    - To put Dallas on notice, shortly thereafter Frings makes a mean, tough tackle on the Dallas scorer and gets a yellow. This changes the flow of the game - the crowd is really in the game and the tide shifts in Toronto's favour
    - Frings steps around a couple of Dallas players, carrying the ball up field, he finds Plata and the little guy pops it in the net!
    - later on Danny Koevermans will be fed by Frings and he will slip a nice one over to Plata who scores again
    - Koevermans makes one of those classic Danny Dichio clumbsy, hard, late striker challenges that results in the big K's first yellow card in the MLS. Even though the card was definitely warranted, the crowd at BMO wants the refs head

    - Koevermans is subbed out early in the 2nd half when we are leading 2-1
    - With about 15 minutes left, Frings makes a tough but fair challenge and ends up with a second yellow and must leave the game
    - Dallas ends up beating us 3-2, with the winning goal by Kevin Hartman in extra time setting a new MLS record
    - The crowd is ready to lynch the ref for Frings Red card and the reffing team leaves the field under police escort
    - Frings and Koevermans wondering what the hell they got themselves into but are too seasoned to let this show in post game interviews with Andi P. or whomever does the post game interviews

    - between F+K, they make enough impact for most supporters (even roogsie) to agree that things are looking up! Although Toronto FC has a long way to go, F+K have made their mark!
    Last edited by tiberius; 07-12-2011 at 11:37 PM.

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    ^ kinda like this post.

    Although, I think it will be Gordon getting the goals and Plata providing the distraction.

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    Please sign some defenders before this game.

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    lol honestly I see either Frings or Koevermans getting sent off...we lose 3-1 as Ferreira nets 2 and that ugly lanky bastard Shea nets 1. Our only consulation is the one goal that Soolsma scores on a PK.

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    Did I mention that I fucking hate Dallas?

    Ever since that game with Cooper,Serioux and the fucking referee.

    The referees are alwats fucked during Dallas games, I really hate that team, and if Mo's squad with Danny Dichio and Carl Robinson can maul them 4-0, I would love to see Winter's squad with Torsten Frings and Koeverman do as well.

    Fuck Dallas.

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    Not optimistic, but probably realistic

    Koevermans - Mediocre service from the wingers for a few missed headers. Will lay-off some nice passes to the wings. 1 or 2 long range efforts wide or high. Will suffer some fouls outside the 18. Subbed 60-75.

    Frings (with Ketchup, yumm) - Simple game with decent short passes. Some frustration with lack of support and does not get the ball as much as he wants. A few good mid-range passes to the wings. Will challenge for the ball often but come out with 50% or so.

    Game prediction: 2-1 Toronto Win, with Soolsma and Plata scoring. There is enough quality in the mid and front to get the 2. The back is shaky unless the new CB "will tear this league apart."

    Plata---------Danny K----------Soolsma
    -------Frings------------Tchani--------
    -------------De Guzman---------------
    Borman---New CB----Harden------Gargan
    -------------Kocic (Frei gets Traded) ----

    How about Hainault from Houston??

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExiledRed View Post
    Did I mention that I fucking hate Dallas?

    Ever since that game with Cooper,Serioux and the fucking referee.

    The referees are alwats fucked during Dallas games, I really hate that team, and if Mo's squad with Danny Dichio and Carl Robinson can maul them 4-0, I would love to see Winter's squad with Torsten Frings and Koeverman do as well.

    Fuck Dallas.
    And can we talk about Shea? Makin me a Hater.

    Dallas has had too many lucky games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nickio View Post
    ..../Koevermans - Mediocre service from the wingers for a few missed headers.....-------------Kocic (Frei gets Traded) ----
    Not a criticism of Nickio but does anyone know why MLS announcers always say "service" instead of "cross". Would it offend the Moral Majority to use the normal terminology within the sport for that?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3OWBhySR6w

    Not sure why people are so comfortable with the idea of Frei being traded. Have people forgotten what season one was like on the goalkeeping front? If you have an above average keeper on a reasonable salary number it's sensible to try to keep him.

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    Well, since all the optimism has been taken...

    We lose 3-0

    DK is subbed out at the 70th minute and did next to nothing.
    Frings looks good, but keeps wondering why the rest of the team is just standing there watching him. Isntantly he understands our record.
    JDG gets a red card trying too bloody hard to show he can keep up with Frings.
    Gargan plays so bad we forget about how Henry looked.

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    frings goes down with a torn ACL / kovermans is our new mista / i cry myself to sleep.

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    wonder if they'd think about putting Frings in at CB for a few games until we get cover in

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    Frings is definitely no CB by anymeans

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ossington Mental Youth View Post
    Frings is definitely no CB by anymeans
    If the handball rule changes he'll make a fine CB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExiledRed View Post
    Did I mention that I fucking hate Dallas?

    Ever since that game with Cooper,Serioux and the fucking referee.

    The referees are alwats fucked during Dallas games, I really hate that team, and if Mo's squad with Danny Dichio and Carl Robinson can maul them 4-0, I would love to see Winter's squad with Torsten Frings and Koeverman do as well.

    Fuck Dallas.

    That Dallas win was one of my favourite TFC games all time (down on the list after some of the big wins of course, but still up there). Bright summer day and we smoked them silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickio View Post
    Not optimistic, but probably realistic

    Koevermans - Mediocre service from the wingers for a few missed headers. Will lay-off some nice passes to the wings. 1 or 2 long range efforts wide or high. Will suffer some fouls outside the 18. Subbed 60-75.

    Frings (with Ketchup, yumm) - Simple game with decent short passes. Some frustration with lack of support and does not get the ball as much as he wants. A few good mid-range passes to the wings. Will challenge for the ball often but come out with 50% or so.

    Game prediction: 2-1 Toronto Win, with Soolsma and Plata scoring. There is enough quality in the mid and front to get the 2. The back is shaky unless the new CB "will tear this league apart."

    Plata---------Danny K----------Soolsma
    -------Frings------------Tchani--------
    -------------De Guzman---------------
    Borman---New CB----Harden------Gargan
    -------------Kocic (Frei gets Traded) ----

    How about Hainault from Houston??
    Yikes. Even with a new CB that back line looks pathetic.

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    If Kocic can do the job, I think we should deal Stef. I love the guy and he's a tremendous keeper, but we need a quality, quality back line which we simply do not have.

    Frei for a quality CB and Harden, Gargan and Borman for a brand new bag of soccer balls would be a fine transaction.

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    Frings plays as the sole defensive back in the 4-3-3, with two attacking mids. Koevermans plays between Soolsma and Plata.

    The first fifteen minutes are tentative for all players, both sides trying to see what the general feel for the game will be. Dallas has greater possession early and attacks, only to be foiled by Frings on at least two attempts. Frings is given some leeway by the officials, but by the 25 minute mark has seen his first MLS yellow card.

    Koevermans gets two chances in the middle of the half, but it is apparent that he is not as match fit as Frings. Plata provides energy and Koevermans puts one off the woodwork and forces a great save on the other. Just before the half, he finally nets one on a shot from 25 yards.

    Koevermans is subbed out by the 60th minute. Frings goes on to play the majority of the game, perhaps being subbed after the 75th, only if he is playing as physically as he did early. Otherwise, he finishes the game.

    Toronto nets one other goal, and Dalls comes back late with a goal to make life interesting. Frei slams the door and TFC come away with a 2-1 win. Frings is man of the match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooker View Post
    Danny + Soolsma = !!!!!!!!
    They're an item ?

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    Ensco - can I get two pints on a Harden hat trick? :-)

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    It's like having two fucking Danny fucking Dichios in one, Frings bosses the mid defensively, nothing gets near the goal, koevermans finds space all over the place, pumps home two, including the winner in the 89th minute as tfc win 3-2

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    I'm with jloome - 3-2 TFC. We look much improved going forward, but our defense is still shaky.

    - Scott
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    Quote Originally Posted by brad View Post
    Ensco - can I get two pints on a Harden hat trick? :-)
    Sure. I'm also paying two pints if you can prove the Easter Bunny exists (must be confirmed by the Archbishop of Canterbury by July 21)
    "There are some people who might have better technique than me, and some may be fitter than me, but the main thing is tactics. With most players, tactics are missing. You can divide tactics into insight, trust, and daring." - Johan Cruyff

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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    Sure. I'm also paying two pints if you can prove the Easter Bunny exists (must be confirmed by the Archbishop of Canterbury by July 21)
    For two pints I'd bring you the head of Santa Clause!

 

 

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