Welcome to Toronto!
Welcome to the group and to MLS soccer. I'm sure you'll be asking yourself, 'What in the Hell is this league thinking.' in a matter of no time.
It's also nice to have another Irishman around being of Pennsylvania Irish decent myself....among other nationalities.![]()
welcome dubliner you will hear a lot of blarney on here from a few ejits but most of the time good banter,enjoy the games, some good players and some that should have taken up ludo.
Eh, dubliner replied to it, no need to bring it back up.
Hi Prizby,
A season ticket for the 2011 Irish Premier Division with St. Pats is approx. 216, or $290. However, our facilities would be nowhere near the standard of the BMO Field. Below is a picture of Richmond Park, St Pat's home.
http://img69.imageshack.us/i/20060907pats0028kd9.jpg/
Given there are 17 home games in a season it works out at $17 or 13 per game. Individual game prices are $20 or 15. It would be unfair to compare these prices to TFC's Red sections as Richmond Park would be quite small.
To compare the value of the two packages I would say the Yellow, Light and Medium Grey tickets are quite reasonably priced when you consider the standard of the facilities you have.
The Irish league suffers from the following problems which continue to hinder the growth of our league
1) Proximity to English Premier League/Sky Sports TV- 90% of Irish soccer fans support an English Premier league team. For them, "supporting" their team means going to the Pub for beers and watching the match on TV. For me they are not soccer fans and they are engaging in a social activity.......nothing compares to live football!!
2) General Publics lack of respect for the league - Most fans are watching Liverpool, Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal, Champions League week in week out, in full modern stadia. They then look at an Irish league game in an half empty run down stadium and just presume the standard is very poor! This means we struggle to increase attendances and cannot afford to improve facilities and playing staff.
3) Presence of GAA - Soccer is up against Rugby (Ireland are one of the top teams in the World) and Gaelic games, our national sports of Gaelic Football and Hurling. This means soccer must compete against these other sports, somthing English clubs do not have a problem with.
4) Our best players go to England/Scotland - The following players recently played in the Irish Premier League - Kevin Doyle (Wolves), Shane Long (Reading), Daryl Murphy (Celtic), Paddy McCourt (Celtic), Niall McGinn (Celtic), Keith Fahey (Birmingham), Seamus Coleman (Everton), David Meyler (Sunderland). Alot of English clubs now see our league as a pool for cheap talent. Our best players cannot stay in Ireland as our league is amateur (recently we have had some full time clubs, but recession.....etc!!!).
In some ways I suppose the two leagues are very similar, i.e. competition from other sports, general public's lack of interest etc.
I am looking forward to seeing what the standard of football will be like. In recent years the Irish league moved to Summer football which resulted in improvements in our European matches. For eg, St Pats have beaten IF Elfsborg in recent years (Elfborg had beaten Hibernian of Scotland 4-0 in the previous round of the Europa League that year). We also beat Skonto Riga and Kryla Sovatov (who were 6th in the Russian league at that time) and drew with Heartha Berlin and Steua Bucharest. The standard is better than many believe. I would suggest our 3 biggest clubs (St Pats, Shamrock Rovers and Bohemiens) would compete very competitively in the Scotish Premier League (perhaps excluding Celtic and Rangers, although Celtic are very bad at the moment) and I think they would be in the lower half of the English Championship.
I have rambled on here now and maybe not answered your question, so....
Facilities wise I think TFCs lower priced ticekets are reasonable but the most expensive tickets are extortionate. This is purely based on my experience of the facilities on offer. I cannot comment on the standard of football yet, but hope I have clarified where I believe the standard of the Irish league is.
P.S Thanks for the welcome from everyone, much appreciated. Do you guys have any meet ups during the off season??? And if so where?? I was out for a few pints a few weeks ago and we stumbled upon the end of season awards party in Grace O'Malley's. Got photos with Cann and Frei. Myself and few others woudl love to meet up with some TFC fans.![]()
Welcome and Merry Chrimbo, you will love T.O , great city and people.
Welcome Dubliner!
In answer to your question about locals:
- A number of RPB can be found at Shoeless Joe's on King St. West, just north of BMO Field at any time of the year. If you keep an eye on the boards, you'll find announcements of "official" and unofficial meetings alike.
- There are lots of other places to watch Soccer in the city if you'd like to get some non-TFC flavor. I find a great spot is Scallywag's, just West of Yonge and St. Clair (immediately off of the Subway line). They also show Rugby frequently. One of the great things about this bar is that there will always be ex-Pats and foreign nationals banding together to support their Clubs and Countries alike. I am sure other members can share other spots as well (if they haven't already).
Have fun, enjoy our (your) City!
from the wiki article on the st. pats:
In 2005 the board of St. Pats spoke to their fans about a potential move to a new municipal stadium in Tallaght where they would share with Shamrock Rovers. Outraged by this the clubs fans revolted and a pressure group called 'Pats for Richmond' was set up to mobilise and organise opposition to the plan. In July 2006 St. Pats board of directors gave a clear indication of staying by purchasing local pub Richmond House (also known as McDowells) in order to give the club's fans a social base.
they bought them all a bar!?
Welcome to Toronto!
You are going to enjoy the atmosphere at the games - it is fantastic. Also you will feel at home as there is a lot of Irish blood here.
It is brilliant for Toronto to finally have their own football team, and even though there are a few bumps along the way, the majority of people are glad to have a team to cheer for.
You will love it on this side of the pond ...![]()
By the way, I saw Hurling on Setenta and I would have to say that this is probably the best sport ever. My jaw was just dropped, I could not believe the skill of those players.
Thanks lads, am back home on the Emerald Isle for the holidays but will be back in Toronto in the New Year. See you then.
@ Kodiak, yes Hurling is supposed to be the fastest ball sport in the world apparantly and the players you mention are completely amateur. They have day jobs like you and me and train/play at night and weekends. They are not paid for playing either! Do it for the pride of the county they are from.
HOW AM I HEARING ABOUT HURLING NOW FOR THE FIRST TIME?!?!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmzivRetelE
fuckin awesome. .
Thats what this group needs. . more Irish !
Cant wait to see ya round the taps lad.
and alos for you to see BMO when TFC SCORES!
I hope you brought some luck. . . . of the irish variety.
Welcome, from me and the rest of the scousers and scoundrels.
NOTICE: Wager with STB: OVER 2 shots on goal in the First half wins a Pint at HT.
what the fuck is happening in here...no techos
No offense to the Irish present, but Irish luck is not something i wish for. I would argue this team has too much Irish luck. Irish people are fine...just no Irish luck.
Remember, Ireland had the Potato blights/famines, hundreds of years of foreign domination, civil wars, etc.
The phrase "the luck of the Irish" is not a very well thought out one. In fact, I wish Columbus and Montreal lots and lots of Irish luck.