Originally Posted by PizzaEatingYeti
Have fun pitching this in the pussplops/MLS cup threads later.
I'm just going to enjoy the Shield presentation at our home pitch.
Have fun pitching this in the pussplops/MLS cup threads later.
I'm just going to enjoy the Shield presentation at our home pitch.
FORMER FULL TIME KOOL-AID DRINKER
No Thanks and even if we wanted to,Rogers centre is getting retrofitted for baseball only,no more football or soccer in that monster venue
Plans for spring facility, Rogers Centre renovations in progress ...
In fairness the discussion now is which game do we officially clinch it. Not if.
You are right, no offence intended.
Btw Vancouver is coming on in the west, would love to see them here in December. Partly because that would make the league office insane.
"There are some people who might have better technique than me, and some may be fitter than me, but the main thing is tactics. With most players, tactics are missing. You can divide tactics into insight, trust, and daring." - Johan Cruyff
According to FiveThirtyEight, TFC now has a 99% chance of winning the Supporter's Shield. Is that too high?
Currently there are 9 teams that can still catch us theoretically
NYCFC 9 pts back (18 points possible) (68 max)
Fire 14pts back (18) (63)
NYRB 18 (21) (62)
Atlanta 20 (27) (66)
Portland 15(15) (59)
Seattle 17 (21) (63)
VWFC 18 (24) (65)
SKC 18 (21) (62)
Houston 21(21) (59)
If all those teams win every single game between now and the end of the season.
We need to get single point to knock out Houston and Portland
5-6 SKC,Seattle, NYRB, and the Fire
7 leaves only Atlanta and NYCFC assuming their records allow at that point
3 wins and a tie in our last 6 basically clinches the Supporter shield even if every other team wins all their remaining games as that takes us to 69 points
99% pretty much seems about right.
The earliest we can clinch the Supporter shield Would be either the 20th or 23rd. If we beat LA on the 16th and Montreal on the 20th with Colorado beating NYFC and New England or Orlando split the points or beating Atlanta on the 13th or 16th we would have 65 points and no other team could get more than that. Unofficially at that point we will have clinched we would then need at least one point on the 23rd to do so officially. If we win the next 3 games extending a winning streak to 8 and NYCFC drop any points then we would also clinch the SS
Last edited by Kaz; 09-10-2017 at 10:21 PM. Reason: edited for clarity
Do you realize how many people on this board you just triggered!?!?
:P
Sure I realize it!Do you realize how many people on this board you just triggered!?!?
MLS has a nice break down of the records we're chasing
https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2017/...t-seasons-ever
According to SportsStats site, even if TFC loses the remaining 6 games, still has 30% change of SS. That's sweet. Getting 2 W's probably does it.
Going un defeated at home will be some accomplishment. That will be enough motivation to see us over the finish line. The most satisfying thing about this seaon is that I genuinely feel that TFC has raised the bar on the league. Not with three highly paid star DP's but in terms of squad depth and overall quality of the team. Teams that fail to respond will get left behind.
I agree completely. After all the years of frustration, heart break and disappointment, I almost can't believe I can type the following sentence. TFC has become the model on which all other teams will base themselves off.
Does anyone know when the Shield is presented?
Is it as soon as we clinch? First home game after we clinch? Last home game after we clinch? Last game? Some separate ceremony after the league is done?
I was at the Red Bulls home opener last year against TFC and they presented the shield from the previous season then. Not sure when they actually clinched it so they may not have had time to present at the end of the year...
Toronto 'til I die although still a Leeds fan at heart...
Ah, I thought they give the shield when the regular season is over
If we were to win it, I would expect October 15th to be the game it gets awarded
The shield is actually controlled by the fans, not the league.
Road Trips: July 7 2007 Chicago, July 22nd 2007 Columbus, August 11 2007 NY, October 13 2007 LA, March 29 2008 Columbus, May 24th 2008 DC, May 26 2008 Montreal, June 28th 2008 NE, March 7-11-14 2009 Charleston, March 28 2009 Columbus, April 10 2010 New England, May 12 2010 Montreal, April 7 2012 Montreal, March 16 2013 Montreal , June 3 2014 Montreal, March 14 2015 Columbus
Twitter: @RPBPhil
I love it!!!!!If we were to win it, I would expect October 15th to be the game it gets awarded
The shield is actually controlled by the fans, not the league.
MLS is a tough, physical league, that emphasizes speed, and features plastic fields, grueling travel, extreme weather, and incompetent refs. - NK Toronto
Don't you mean supporters Phil? And by supporters, don't you really mean YOU?(And the leaders of the other SGs.)
Ultimately what you're saying is we might be able to determine when to award the shield to our boys, correct?
Road Games:
2013 - Montréal , 2014 - Orlando (Disney Classic), Montréal
2015 - Columbus, New England, Montréal
2016 - NYCFC (Leg 2 Conference Semis), Montréal (Leg 1 Conference Final)
2017 - Ottawa (Leg 1 Canadian Championship Semi), DCU, Red Bulls (Leg 1 Conference Final), Columbus (Leg 2 Conference Final)
2019 - Montréal, NYCFC (Eastern Conference Semi @ Citi Field), Seattle (MLS Cup Final)
On that note... where is the shield kept/displayed during the season?If we were to win it, I would expect October 15th to be the game it gets awarded
The shield is actually controlled by the fans, not the league.
Would it be in Toronto's trophy case?
Working that out with the team. It may reside at KIA for a bit, but ultimately its up to RPB and Kings (both ISC members) to determine. I will be getting consultation from Dallas SG's as well as the ISC for best recommendations.
Road Trips: July 7 2007 Chicago, July 22nd 2007 Columbus, August 11 2007 NY, October 13 2007 LA, March 29 2008 Columbus, May 24th 2008 DC, May 26 2008 Montreal, June 28th 2008 NE, March 7-11-14 2009 Charleston, March 28 2009 Columbus, April 10 2010 New England, May 12 2010 Montreal, April 7 2012 Montreal, March 16 2013 Montreal , June 3 2014 Montreal, March 14 2015 Columbus
Twitter: @RPBPhil
Cool.
Just curious, because I don't trust any of us to not lose it or dent it in some foolish manner.
TFC trophy case would be my vote.
Joes!
If we were to win it, I would expect October 15th to be the game it gets awarded
The shield is actually controlled by the fans, not the league.
Even if we have it clinched the week before (@home vs NYRB)?
Even if its sooner, it will be coming to us on Oct 15 th
Road Trips: July 7 2007 Chicago, July 22nd 2007 Columbus, August 11 2007 NY, October 13 2007 LA, March 29 2008 Columbus, May 24th 2008 DC, May 26 2008 Montreal, June 28th 2008 NE, March 7-11-14 2009 Charleston, March 28 2009 Columbus, April 10 2010 New England, May 12 2010 Montreal, April 7 2012 Montreal, March 16 2013 Montreal , June 3 2014 Montreal, March 14 2015 Columbus
Twitter: @RPBPhil
Traditionally, its either the game we clinch if at home or the next home game after, after the game. NYRB didn't because they were all "we don't take this that seriously" after all their playoff flops.
We, on the other hand, take this trophy seriously.
I still think the presentation happens one way shape or form after the NYRB game.
I'm pretty sure NYRB had a presentation when they clinched it 2 yrs ago. Supporters groups were trying to organize it so that SS was present when NYRB was in position to win it.
“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”
-Eduardo Galeano
I personally hope they wait until the Montreal game. Just so we can rub a bit more salt into the wound
Kurt Larson
Will Toronto FC’s record season matter if it doesn’t win MLS Cup? Absolutely, Larson says
http://www.torontosun.com/2017/09/10...an-cup-for-tfc
The way you stake out turf as one of the great teams in MLS history is by destroying teams in the playoffs. I want to win every playoff game 4-0. The second legs would be giant parties.
That's what I want.
"There are some people who might have better technique than me, and some may be fitter than me, but the main thing is tactics. With most players, tactics are missing. You can divide tactics into insight, trust, and daring." - Johan Cruyff
I think you want the pussplops thread. We can start that whenever you like.
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