Supporters Shield Race

[Don Julio]

That math would only work if only those 13 teams could win. You have to average the number of teams over the 11 seasons to get real odds. So it's better than "slightly" beating the odds. More like 1 in 18, give or take (I'm not doing a detailed calculation).

If it was a 13 team league then "beating the odds" would mean winning it in year 6 or sooner. 7 would be average. 8 or greater would be below average.

[Oldtimer]

If it was a 13 team league then "beating the odds" would mean winning it in year 6 or sooner. 7 would be average. 8 or greater would be below average.

We only have this talk because of the relative parity in this league.

If this was the Premier League, nobody would be calling Stoke a failure for having failed to win the league since the Premier League's inception in 1992.