DeRo on the Fan590 a few minutes ago:
http://www.fan590.com/media.jsp?cont...26_130430_5724
... not really inspiring. On the Celtic permission issue, he alluded to someone in the club not informing everyone and when it all hit the fan, they (management) backpeddled and said things that weren't true.
Took a shot at TFC saying it's not like they've ever had anyone on loan before.
I guess he forgot "In the past" is a nice safe answer.
Hate him or not, that sounds exactly like what happened, considering that Cochrane did a complete about face when the story went public. Someone in the interim F.O. fucked up and is being protected from fan/media scrutiny...Originally Posted by Pookie
Last edited by ManUtd4ever; 01-26-2011 at 03:03 PM.
In my opinion it was Jim Brennan.
Unless Cochrane is lying about giving him permission.
Agreed. Cochrane's initial response suggested that TFC had no knowledge of DeRo's intention to trial with Celtic. The next day, he was aware, but was awaiting proper paperwork. Unless Cochrane intentionally wanted to embarass himself, it was Brennan and there was a serious lack of communication at the time...
Last edited by ManUtd4ever; 01-26-2011 at 03:03 PM.
This is simply untrue - Cochrane responded to media questions about DeRo being out on trial. He said "no".
When it became evident he was in Scotland, he said there were talks about a loan/trial. He also remained true to the first question in that there was no permission given to the player trial.
Two different questions. There is no about face here.
I initially thought the same thing, but if you examine Cochrane's initial response, it sounded like he was unaware of DeRo's intention to travel to Scotland at all. It sounds fishy to me...
Yes, he was unaware that DeRo intended to travel to scotland. He WAS aware that the player was interested in loan/trial arrangements.
I mean - you can't travel to Scotland unless you have permission right?
This is semantics though, isn't it? The entire shitstorm could have been avoided if Cochrane's initial response indicated any knowledge of the situation whatsoever.Yes, he was unaware that DeRo intended to travel to scotland. He WAS aware that the player was interested in loan/trial arrangements.
I mean - you can't travel to Scotland unless you have permission right?
Not really. It wouldn't be proper of Cochrane to publicly discuss what were up until then private discussions with the player and his agent.
He could have easily said "Yeah, we know he wants to trial elsewhere or go out on loan" but he didn't. IMO his was the proper response, even though he's now being made out by some to look like the fool.
Truth is probably somewhere in the middle. Someone probably gave him verbal permission but the written permission never existed. That's a disconnect but fault also lies with Dwayne as he pressed on without the written stuff.
If written permission existed, there is no way in hell MLS lets one of their good PR stories go to the shitter to protect the public name of Brennan or Earl Cochrane. The process wasn't done and he pressed on knowing he didn't have anything in writing.
That sounds reasonable. In that case, does DeRo deserve to be villified to the extent that he has been?!
Yup. I agree.
But certain fans with an axe to grind want to keep pounding on this issue for no good reason.
The new management team appears to want De Rosario as part of their future plans. I'm happy with that.
But its a joke the way some people are looking for deeper meaning in De Rosario's comments in the hopes that they can continue to roast him.
It appears that some one in the FO fucked up but its De Rosario that is getting the ire of the fans.
Even if you think the FO fucked up (which I do) how does that absolve DeRo of the ire of the fans?
DeRo brought the ire on himself with that cheque signing shit.
You want to forgive him for that? Fine.
I don't. Many others don't either.
The Celtic thing compounds the situation.
It's water under the bridge for some.
By the way....it's not a joke to look for "deeper meaning" when the questions and answers given and received are nothing but fluff.
There is deeper meaning. How to interpret it is up to the individual.
If you don't care about what DeRo has to say on the subject, that's fine.
Others do.
The FO made De Rosario look bad. That's why.
They could have simply let De Rosario trial for Celtic and it would have been a foot note in TFC history.
Instead the way they handled it led fans to unfairly vilify De Rosario.
Its as if some vindictive dick in the FO wanted De Rosario to look bad.
The cheque signing is an entirely separate issue.
... except of course they couldn't just "let" it happen when there were no written "binding legal terms and conditions" of the trial. If the agent had written, binding legal terms and conditions, the trial wouldn't have stopped now would it?
Maybe the FO thought it prudent to make him look bad. You know...tit for tat.
He shows up the FO in front of everyone and you want the club to play nice for him to go to Scotland.
Why?
I don't even care that he went to Celtic. He lost me at the cheque signing.
How you can say the two are seperate issues is beyond me. DeRo went to Celtic to try and gain leverage when it comes to his contract. The contract he complained about at the cheque signing. If Celtic decided that they wanted him (WHICH THEY DID NOT), you don't think he would have used that as ammo for the "negotiations".
Hate the FO as much as you want...but DeRo is to blame as well. He's not being wrongfully vilified by anyone.
Read those articles and his quotes and tell me you don't think he sounds like a douchebag.
He sounds like so many pro athletes. Some management are better at dealing with that kind of attitude than others. As people have said, he came in here with the attitude in place. From the day of the trade he held out and a couple of weeks went by before he signed. Some people have seen this coming since then, but for some reason not the FO of the team.
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