Well I'll stir the pot again
Why would we think that DeRo would accept a new system of play for long? He's always been drawn to that position that isn't quite striker and isn't quite midfield. Winter can tell him to play somewhere else but at this point I can't see him changing.
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Or from the other side, why would Mariner expect him to accept him to accept a new system? (I still think MLSE feel DeRo is a local hero and good for marketing and are forcing him on the new management...)Originally Posted by Fort York Redcoat
I seriously doubt that Tom Anselmi or any other MLSE executives would force the new regime to keep any incumbent players, especially DeRo. If DeRo stays, it's because Winter and Mariner feel he can contribute within the parameters of their desired style of football...
Why not, they forced them to keep all kinds of coaches and assistant managers. If they thought a player could sell a few tickets....
What did you expect, for the organization to be completely cleaned out? Obviously there was bound to be some continuity but I'm sure Winter and Mariner are firmly in charge of all player personnel decisions...
Whole organization? No
Everyone involved in the senior team? Yup
How does TFC benefit (in terms of on field product) by making the new guys keep Brennan, Dichio, Cochrane, Dasovic etc?
Grooming future gms and coaches? Let them learn the trade elsewhere.
I want no remnants of the clusterfuck that was TFC 2007-2010.
I dont care about fan faves or bullshit walls of honour.
How does keeping those guys make the team better?
They are leftovers of a losing culture.
Not to mention that their pressence allows shit disturber players an unhealthy outlet for their shit disturbing ways.
If there are shit disturbers in this squad i dont want them to have a support network. They have to answer to Winter and listen to winter.
Keeping buddies and ex teammates around is a recipe for disaster.
Last edited by v00d00daddy; 01-21-2011 at 04:16 PM.
clearly you're an expert, knowing exactly how much influence each of the back staff had on the team.
while we're at it, let's get rid of Frei, Attakora, Cann and whoever performed well enough, because they were part of the 'old regime'
“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”
-Eduardo Galeano
I'd have to agree with this. If Winter feels DeRo does not fit, I think he will make sure DeRo will no longer be here. If DeRo is kept on, it's because he wants him here.
... or because no one else wants him on the trade market as a DP or as a contracted player seeking DP status
DeRo is not untradeable as much as it fits your point of view. There are actually several teams that I know would like to have him on their roster. You can be sure that if DeRo plays for TFC this year it is not because Winter feels stuck with him. He has many options. You guys just can't accept that he is a coveted player in this league.
I hate to admit this but Roogsy is correct, for some teams out there DeRo is coveted, but not enough to pay for him.
If you read other team's message boards they are pretty evenly split on their desire to have DeRo on their team.
These "several teams you know of" are they liking him on their roster as a DP or at his current contract.
Count me in as one of those that would like him at his current contract. Count me out if we have to risk the DP slot on him.
If you are speaking openly about teams having interest in him as a DP, I'd be very curious to see your definition of "several"
Only LA, Seattle, Toronto, Chicago, Real Salt Lake, KC, DC and NY currently make use of the DP slot. 8 teams.
Exclude Toronto and we are down to 7. LA and Seattle already have 3 DPs. Down to 5 now.
You'd really have to wonder whether KC would ever pony up the cash for 2. Down to 4?
Which teams that "you know of"? Any evidence here? Before you even attempt an answer, is this one of those super-extra-secret bits of insider insight you seem to have but really never comes to light as being true or even existing?
I'm surprised this one didn't get the red font alert treatment.
"Coveted" players don't get dealt for Julius James. I know the man has two names but really, come on.
Or he can't get rid of him. We are talking about a player, albeit talented, who is on the south side of thirty on a guaranteed contract for beaucoup dollars (by MLS standards) who has a history of complaining about his wages. There is always the possibility to consider Roogsy that there might not b a big market for him in MLS. I could be wrong on this, but so could you.
TFC can't just release him as they eat his wage against he salary cap, hamstringing any chance of a serious rebuilding/reloading for 2011.
The whole salary? When did they pick up the option? Why did they pick up the option?
Would you make the same trade that got DeRo here in reverse? Julius James and a draft pick....
...actually, if he is released prior to July 1st, his salary won't count against the cap. He'll get his money as it is guaranteed but the club wouldn't eat a cap hit too.
After July 1st, well we're screwed.
(A) WAIVERS
Teams may waive players based on performance at any time during the MLS season. Players on guaranteed contracts waived on or after July 1 of any year, however, will continue to have their salary budget count against the team's salary budget and the team waiving the player will not receive a replacement except under the normal player acquisition mechanisms.
http://www.mlssoccer.com/regulations
Thanks for that.
You missed this big caveat at the top of the rules:
* The 2010 roster regulations are still being finalized by the MLS
Competition Committee. The following information pertains to 2009 only and will be updated as soon as possible.
...so these regulations may not apply at all.
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